Comments on: Do newspapers have a marketing problem? http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/ Thoughts on the future of publishing Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:24:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Seth Long http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-1089 Seth Long Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:02:58 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=828#comment-1089 Jason - No argument here. My point is that "print is best" is entrenched in many newspapers and is difficult to root out. I happen to believe that we're doing a great job of it at my place of employment but I know that others are struggling. Jason – No argument here. My point is that “print is best” is entrenched in many newspapers and is difficult to root out. I happen to believe that we’re doing a great job of it at my place of employment but I know that others are struggling.

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By: Jason Preston http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-1088 Jason Preston Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:59:18 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=828#comment-1088 <a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/#comment-1086" rel="nofollow">Seth</a> - This may sound a little harsh, but I think if you've got people in your newspaper ad department that honestly believe that print newspaper advertisements are the only things that work, they should be fired. A newspaper is now a multimedia publication. You need to have video online, and you freakin' better have an ad staff that believes in the principles of advertising in all delivery mediums. What happens when you have to sell ads against your podcasts? Seth – This may sound a little harsh, but I think if you’ve got people in your newspaper ad department that honestly believe that print newspaper advertisements are the only things that work, they should be fired.

A newspaper is now a multimedia publication. You need to have video online, and you freakin’ better have an ad staff that believes in the principles of advertising in all delivery mediums.

What happens when you have to sell ads against your podcasts?

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By: Seth Long http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-1087 Seth Long Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:51:48 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=828#comment-1087 Ploy - yes it is but in many newspaper sales bullpens, it's Gospel. Ploy – yes it is but in many newspaper sales bullpens, it’s Gospel.

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By: Jason Preston http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-1086 Jason Preston Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:56:15 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=828#comment-1086 <a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/#comment-1085" rel="nofollow">Seth</a> - Well said. It does make a certain amount of sense to eat your own dog food in terms of ad solutions, but I think that's an issue any ad rep could easily wave aside, because: 1. no one will seriously believe that other mediums "don't work," so it's a ploy and everyone knows it's a ploy, and 2. advertising is by definition external promotion - meaning, we the newspaper are putting ads on the radio because we're not the radio, just like you the cereal company are putting ads in the newspaper because ads on your cereal box will only reach existing customers. Seth – Well said. It does make a certain amount of sense to eat your own dog food in terms of ad solutions, but I think that’s an issue any ad rep could easily wave aside, because:

1. no one will seriously believe that other mediums “don’t work,” so it’s a ploy and everyone knows it’s a ploy, and

2. advertising is by definition external promotion – meaning, we the newspaper are putting ads on the radio because we’re not the radio, just like you the cereal company are putting ads in the newspaper because ads on your cereal box will only reach existing customers.

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By: Seth Long http://eatsleeppublish.com/do-newspapers-have-a-marketing-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-1085 Seth Long Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:45:15 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=828#comment-1085 Of course we have a marketing problem - the entire country is convinced that newspapers are doomed and there isn't anyone offering an opposing view to a mass audience. Do we need to advertise? Yes. Do we need to evangelize? Absolutely. Evangelism - not because "print is best" but because of the role of the press in American democracy. Pure-play online journalism will eventually have the financial strength to take up this challenge but at the moment, only traditional media can afford to do the sort of "Journalism with a Capital J" that requires time, people, and money. And, for the moment, only traditional media have the resources to provide in-depth and comprehensive local news. ("for the moment" = watch the bottom lines of the hyperlocals - the market is swinging in their favor) That's what newspapers need to talk about. The challenge with getting newspapers to advertise is that it is often seen as an admission that other forms of advertising actually work. Newspaper sales reps spend lots of time telling clients that radio, tv, and outdoor don't work, so to run bus ads might imply that - gasp! - they do work. The common refrain is "we're our best source of promotion." How's that working out for us with declining readership? Yeah. Time for Plan B. Of course we have a marketing problem – the entire country is convinced that newspapers are doomed and there isn’t anyone offering an opposing view to a mass audience. Do we need to advertise? Yes. Do we need to evangelize? Absolutely.

Evangelism – not because “print is best” but because of the role of the press in American democracy. Pure-play online journalism will eventually have the financial strength to take up this challenge but at the moment, only traditional media can afford to do the sort of “Journalism with a Capital J” that requires time, people, and money. And, for the moment, only traditional media have the resources to provide in-depth and comprehensive local news. (”for the moment” = watch the bottom lines of the hyperlocals – the market is swinging in their favor) That’s what newspapers need to talk about.

The challenge with getting newspapers to advertise is that it is often seen as an admission that other forms of advertising actually work. Newspaper sales reps spend lots of time telling clients that radio, tv, and outdoor don’t work, so to run bus ads might imply that – gasp! – they do work. The common refrain is “we’re our best source of promotion.” How’s that working out for us with declining readership? Yeah. Time for Plan B.

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