Comments on: Why the Financial Times can charge for metered content http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/ Thoughts on the future of publishing Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:24:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Peter Nelson http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-2656 Peter Nelson Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:47:44 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-2656 "if someone really wants to find out who you are, and they know what they’re doing, I bet it can be done. " Well, I'm a software engineer and, offhand, I can't think of any legal way that it can be done, especially if the client is on the other side of a firewall. "but to make something sufficiently difficult as to deter most basic users from bothering." But what I described is trivially easy, even for a non-technical user. I've seen studies suggesting that in certain demographics something like 90% of the music being listened-to is acquired through file-sharing - despite that fact that it's illegal and it requires a lot more technical prowess than defeating metered-content schemes. I'm a music collector who's spent over $20,000 acquiring music LEGALLY so obviously I think good stuff is worth paying-for, but I think that attitude is going out of style. Another example of this problem is public broadcasting where NPR and PBS have had to resort to increasingly strident methods to try to get people to pay. Alternatively, consider Major League Baseball where many teams (including my local Boston Red Sox) are no longer broadcast on "free" TV - they're only available for an expensive cable subscription, and they're one of the richest teams in the league. So I think forcing people to pay works best, IF it can be done, but I don't think the newspaper industry can pull it off. I hope I'm wrong because I love newspapers. “if someone really wants to find out who you are, and they know what they’re doing, I bet it can be done. ”

Well, I’m a software engineer and, offhand, I can’t think of any legal way that it can be done, especially if the client is on the other side of a firewall.

“but to make something sufficiently difficult as to deter most basic users from bothering.”

But what I described is trivially easy, even for a non-technical user.

I’ve seen studies suggesting that in certain demographics something like 90% of the music being listened-to is acquired through file-sharing – despite that fact that it’s illegal and it requires a lot more technical prowess than defeating metered-content schemes. I’m a music collector who’s spent over $20,000 acquiring music LEGALLY so obviously I think good stuff is worth paying-for, but I think that attitude is going out of style. Another example of this problem is public broadcasting where NPR and PBS have had to resort to increasingly strident methods to try to get people to pay.

Alternatively, consider Major League Baseball where many teams (including my local Boston Red Sox) are no longer broadcast on “free” TV – they’re only available for an expensive cable subscription, and they’re one of the richest teams in the league. So I think forcing people to pay works best, IF it can be done, but I don’t think the newspaper industry can pull it off. I hope I’m wrong because I love newspapers.

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By: Jason Preston http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-2633 Jason Preston Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:48:14 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-2633 I'm betting that "no way" is a bit strong; if someone really wants to find out who you are, and they know what they're doing, I bet it can be done. But that's beside the point. As with any Digital Rights Management scheme, which is kind of what metered content is, the idea is not to make something unhackable, but to make something sufficiently difficult as to deter most basic users from bothering. Or in other words, make it easier to play by the rules than not by the rules. You're right, you can get around paywalls and metered walls, and I think you'll always be able to. It's not about <em>forcing</em. people to pay, it's about convincing them to want to. I’m betting that “no way” is a bit strong; if someone really wants to find out who you are, and they know what they’re doing, I bet it can be done.

But that’s beside the point. As with any Digital Rights Management scheme, which is kind of what metered content is, the idea is not to make something unhackable, but to make something sufficiently difficult as to deter most basic users from bothering. Or in other words, make it easier to play by the rules than not by the rules.

You’re right, you can get around paywalls and metered walls, and I think you’ll always be able to. It’s not about forcing</em. people to pay, it’s about convincing them to want to.

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By: Peter Nelson http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-2630 Peter Nelson Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:09:58 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-2630 . . . just a followup to my last comment about metered content. To test my idea I went to the FT website and started clicking on articles until I got the message telling me I had to register to read more (I wasn't counting but I think it was 5 or 6 articles) . So I did a "Clear Private Data" (which in my case clears almost everything) in my Firefox browser (one mouse click) and the FT forgot I had ever been there and just let me keep reading more articles! So as I feared in my earlier comment, metered content seems easy to defeat because there's no robust way to identify "you" as the "same" reader across sessions. . . . just a followup to my last comment about metered content.

To test my idea I went to the FT website and started clicking on articles until I got the message telling me I had to register to read more (I wasn’t counting but I think it was 5 or 6 articles) . So I did a “Clear Private Data” (which in my case clears almost everything) in my Firefox browser (one mouse click) and the FT forgot I had ever been there and just let me keep reading more articles!

So as I feared in my earlier comment, metered content seems easy to defeat because there’s no robust way to identify “you” as the “same” reader across sessions.

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By: NewsCorp: you want metered content — Eat Sleep Publish http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-2251 NewsCorp: you want metered content — Eat Sleep Publish Fri, 08 May 2009 19:05:01 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-2251 [...] how about metered content? Metered content? Metered [...] [...] how about metered content? Metered content? Metered [...]

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By: In defense of metered content — Eat Sleep Publish http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1491 In defense of metered content — Eat Sleep Publish Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:42:27 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-1491 [...] since I posted about the Financial Times’ system of metered content, I’ve met with a lot of resistance from people who don’t think the idea has any chance [...] [...] since I posted about the Financial Times’ system of metered content, I’ve met with a lot of resistance from people who don’t think the idea has any chance [...]

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By: Do newspapers have a marketing problem? — Eat Sleep Publish http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1084 Do newspapers have a marketing problem? — Eat Sleep Publish Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:11:37 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-1084 [...] When you’re advertising a newspaper, what you’re really doing is getting people interested in the news, because that’s why they’ll subscribe to your print edition or sign up for your metered online content. [...] [...] When you’re advertising a newspaper, what you’re really doing is getting people interested in the news, because that’s why they’ll subscribe to your print edition or sign up for your metered online content. [...]

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By: Jason Preston http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1077 Jason Preston Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:48:55 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-1077 You're right that it's worth a look (or at the very least a good long think), but my initial impression is that any reproduction that <em>doesn't</em> interrupt my business model is, in fact, <em>advertising</em>. So my assumption is that since the FT business model depends on them developing a loyal user base, and anyone can access any article at any time for free, then it's probably not worth the effort to track down the people who are scraping their content. That said, I'm not 100% sure I'm right. You’re right that it’s worth a look (or at the very least a good long think), but my initial impression is that any reproduction that doesn’t interrupt my business model is, in fact, advertising.

So my assumption is that since the FT business model depends on them developing a loyal user base, and anyone can access any article at any time for free, then it’s probably not worth the effort to track down the people who are scraping their content.

That said, I’m not 100% sure I’m right.

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By: Working Reporter http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1075 Working Reporter Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:24:13 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-1075 You might consider looking into this a bit more -- reuse is not a non-issue, it's a growing issue. I spoke recently to a niche publisher of business analysis who said he maintains a team of people to make sure his subscribed content is not republished elsewhere; he considered it critical to his business model (which is currently doing pretty well). Sites like attributor.com are beginning to make possible automated offsite content monitoring and control, and I expect to see more as forced consolidation occurs and the survivors start looking for ways to maximize content value. You might consider looking into this a bit more — reuse is not a non-issue, it’s a growing issue. I spoke recently to a niche publisher of business analysis who said he maintains a team of people to make sure his subscribed content is not republished elsewhere; he considered it critical to his business model (which is currently doing pretty well).

Sites like attributor.com are beginning to make possible automated offsite content monitoring and control, and I expect to see more as forced consolidation occurs and the survivors start looking for ways to maximize content value.

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By: What you absolutely must know about linking before you launch an aggregator — Eat Sleep Publish http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 What you absolutely must know about linking before you launch an aggregator — Eat Sleep Publish Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:04:08 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-1073 [...] happen to think there’s a business model for online news, probably even a paid model through metering content. Content aggregation works very well for Google, but less well for Yahoo! and [...] [...] happen to think there’s a business model for online news, probably even a paid model through metering content. Content aggregation works very well for Google, but less well for Yahoo! and [...]

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By: Jason Preston http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 Jason Preston Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:59:49 +0000 http://eatsleeppublish.com/?p=736#comment-1070 <a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/metered-content/#comment-1055" rel="nofollow">Working Reporter</a> - You're welcome, you were absolutely right that it warranted some looking into. I really think that metered content is a good model going forward because it solves the biggest problem with paid access content: that it can kill conversation and lower news awareness. I don't know offhand if they're doing anything about work being republished outside the paywall. I'm guessing it's largely a non-issue because the people who are likely to read scraped content are not part of the core brand enthusiasts (or maybe, <a href="http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/03/1000_true_fans.php" rel="nofollow">1,000 true fans</a>) that they are relying on for subscription revenue---everyone else gets the content for "free" anyway. Working Reporter – You’re welcome, you were absolutely right that it warranted some looking into. I really think that metered content is a good model going forward because it solves the biggest problem with paid access content: that it can kill conversation and lower news awareness.

I don’t know offhand if they’re doing anything about work being republished outside the paywall. I’m guessing it’s largely a non-issue because the people who are likely to read scraped content are not part of the core brand enthusiasts (or maybe, 1,000 true fans) that they are relying on for subscription revenue—everyone else gets the content for “free” anyway.

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