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		<title>By: Paul Balcerak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Balcerak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1564&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jason&lt;/a&gt; - This is probably where you and I fundamentally disagree because I just don&#039;t see people paying for straight news content/analysis/whatever (&quot;all the added functionality of a real web-based news &lt;i&gt;resource&lt;/i&gt;&quot;) when they can go to another site and get something similar for free. I don&#039;t see people being that loyal to any particular brand.

Instead, I think paid or metered content would be best applied to &quot;fun&quot; stuff — the Boston Globe&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Picture Blog&lt;/a&gt; being a perfect example. Right now it&#039;s all free, but if there were a way to charge for it (difficult because the photos are culled from all over) who wouldn&#039;t pay a nominal fee (like Flickr pro&#039;s $25/year)?

This is entirely subjective, but apply that argument to whatever you like to consume and it stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1564" rel="nofollow">Jason</a> &#8211; This is probably where you and I fundamentally disagree because I just don&#8217;t see people paying for straight news content/analysis/whatever (&#8220;all the added functionality of a real web-based news <i>resource</i>&#8220;) when they can go to another site and get something similar for free. I don&#8217;t see people being that loyal to any particular brand.</p>
<p>Instead, I think paid or metered content would be best applied to &#8220;fun&#8221; stuff — the Boston Globe&#8217;s <a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/" rel="nofollow">Big Picture Blog</a> being a perfect example. Right now it&#8217;s all free, but if there were a way to charge for it (difficult because the photos are culled from all over) who wouldn&#8217;t pay a nominal fee (like Flickr pro&#8217;s $25/year)?</p>
<p>This is entirely subjective, but apply that argument to whatever you like to consume and it stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1562&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt; &amp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suzanne&lt;/a&gt; - I think you&#039;ve both misunderstood my stance on metered content: metered content is better than straight &lt;em&gt;paid&lt;/em&gt; content for precisely that reason - that it allows everyone free access to the investigative journalism, but still provides a mechanism for a newspaper to charge for their work. 

Archives is just straight math, and it should be decided paper by paper - if you make more money filling the ad inventory and milking the long tail, then keep &#039;em free. If, instead, you make more money by charging people for access, then charge people for access. &#039;nuff said.  

Also, I wholeheartedly agree with the development of true interactive/searchable/useful content on newspaper web sites. I think that&#039;s an essential part of a paid offering. 

What should maybe happen is that the existing functionality of newspaper sites (or something close to it) will remain free, and all the added functionality of a real web-based news &lt;em&gt;resource&lt;/em&gt; will come with a fee attached...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1562" rel="nofollow">Paul</a> &#038; <a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1561" rel="nofollow">Suzanne</a> &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve both misunderstood my stance on metered content: metered content is better than straight <em>paid</em> content for precisely that reason &#8211; that it allows everyone free access to the investigative journalism, but still provides a mechanism for a newspaper to charge for their work. </p>
<p>Archives is just straight math, and it should be decided paper by paper &#8211; if you make more money filling the ad inventory and milking the long tail, then keep &#8216;em free. If, instead, you make more money by charging people for access, then charge people for access. &#8217;nuff said.  </p>
<p>Also, I wholeheartedly agree with the development of true interactive/searchable/useful content on newspaper web sites. I think that&#8217;s an essential part of a paid offering. </p>
<p>What should maybe happen is that the existing functionality of newspaper sites (or something close to it) will remain free, and all the added functionality of a real web-based news <em>resource</em> will come with a fee attached&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Balcerak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Balcerak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1560&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jason&lt;/a&gt; -  The access argument is a good one and I agree you and Suzanne that people would be willing to pay for it (again, I argue ESPN does it all the time). 

However, I also agree with &lt;a href=&quot;http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suzanne&lt;/a&gt; that &quot;hard-hitting news stories ... are the kind that should be free and accessible just on principle alone&quot; and a lot of journalists probably feel the same way. 

What about charging for archives? I know the Yakima Herald-Republic used to (I know because I had to pay to view my own ******* stories back when I was applying for jobs), though &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yakimaherald.com/search/story?s=%22james+joyce+iii%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it looks like they&#039;ve ceased that at the moment&lt;/a&gt; (perhaps killing my question). I&#039;d pay $0.99 to be able to get an text and pdf version of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NewsLibrary&amp;p_multi=TNTB&amp;d_place=TNTB&amp;p_theme=newslibrary2&amp;p_action=search&amp;p_maxdocs=200&amp;p_topdoc=1&amp;p_text_direct-0=0F11B7E428A47022&amp;p_field_direct-0=document_id&amp;p_perpage=10&amp;p_sort=YMD_date:D&amp;s_trackval=GooglePM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;M&#039;s 1995 Divisional Series win&lt;/a&gt; ($2.95 for just text is a little steep, though).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1560" rel="nofollow">Jason</a> &#8211;  The access argument is a good one and I agree you and Suzanne that people would be willing to pay for it (again, I argue ESPN does it all the time). </p>
<p>However, I also agree with <a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1561" rel="nofollow">Suzanne</a> that &#8220;hard-hitting news stories &#8230; are the kind that should be free and accessible just on principle alone&#8221; and a lot of journalists probably feel the same way. </p>
<p>What about charging for archives? I know the Yakima Herald-Republic used to (I know because I had to pay to view my own ******* stories back when I was applying for jobs), though <a href="http://www.yakimaherald.com/search/story?s=%22james+joyce+iii%22" rel="nofollow">it looks like they&#8217;ve ceased that at the moment</a> (perhaps killing my question). I&#8217;d pay $0.99 to be able to get an text and pdf version of the <a href="http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NewsLibrary&amp;p_multi=TNTB&amp;d_place=TNTB&amp;p_theme=newslibrary2&amp;p_action=search&amp;p_maxdocs=200&amp;p_topdoc=1&amp;p_text_direct-0=0F11B7E428A47022&amp;p_field_direct-0=document_id&amp;p_perpage=10&amp;p_sort=YMD_date:D&amp;s_trackval=GooglePM" rel="nofollow">M&#8217;s 1995 Divisional Series win</a> ($2.95 for just text is a little steep, though).</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see my post inspired you! 

I agree with the fact that people are willing to pay for quality content. This is something we&#039;re banking on at my internship, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.public-press.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Public Press.&lt;/a&gt; But it better be the best content you can&#039;t find anywhere else. Consumer Reports does this well, and big databases such as Lexis-Nexis are worth every penny.

I think I read this in &lt;a href=&quot;newshare.typepad.com/jtmnextnewsroom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JTM&#039;s Next Newsroom plan&lt;/a&gt;, and I wholeheartedly agree with it: If news outlets had robust searchable databases, such as local schools information, crime maps, an easy-to-use public records database or something else like that, I can imagine people willing to pay for it. But to create that kind of content, you will have to be well-staffed, and the price you charge will have to offset the staffing.

It&#039;s a tougher sell when you&#039;re talking about hard-hitting news stories, though. Those are the kind that should be free and accessible just on principle alone. I think the upsell potential lies in something that&#039;s searchable, useful, easy to use and THOROUGH as hell.

-Suzanne

PS: I&#039;ve changed the name of the blog from &quot;everyday journalism&quot; to just my name, in part for SEO and all that &quot;personal branding&quot; rubbish, and in part to reflect that I&#039;m writing about a lot more than just yer average everyday journalism. Just FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see my post inspired you! </p>
<p>I agree with the fact that people are willing to pay for quality content. This is something we&#8217;re banking on at my internship, <a href="http://www.public-press.org" rel="nofollow">The Public Press.</a> But it better be the best content you can&#8217;t find anywhere else. Consumer Reports does this well, and big databases such as Lexis-Nexis are worth every penny.</p>
<p>I think I read this in <a href="newshare.typepad.com/jtmnextnewsroom" rel="nofollow">JTM&#8217;s Next Newsroom plan</a>, and I wholeheartedly agree with it: If news outlets had robust searchable databases, such as local schools information, crime maps, an easy-to-use public records database or something else like that, I can imagine people willing to pay for it. But to create that kind of content, you will have to be well-staffed, and the price you charge will have to offset the staffing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tougher sell when you&#8217;re talking about hard-hitting news stories, though. Those are the kind that should be free and accessible just on principle alone. I think the upsell potential lies in something that&#8217;s searchable, useful, easy to use and THOROUGH as hell.</p>
<p>-Suzanne</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;ve changed the name of the blog from &#8220;everyday journalism&#8221; to just my name, in part for SEO and all that &#8220;personal branding&#8221; rubbish, and in part to reflect that I&#8217;m writing about a lot more than just yer average everyday journalism. Just FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1559&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt; - Investigative reporting is certainly a component of that, although it&#039;s also access, not just time. 

More basically, my point is that the news business used to be based on charging for something that was difficult to do: distributing information. Now everyone can distribute information for free, so fewer people are willing to pay for it, which means it&#039;s time to find something new to charge for. 

As for everyone doing it simultaneously, I&#039;ve heard that one before, but I don&#039;t buy it. In this particular case, a few papers just need to prove the market, and others will follow. I think the audience is less fickle than most people assume - there&#039;s still such a thing as a loyal following.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://eatsleeppublish.com/worth-paying-for/#comment-1559" rel="nofollow">Paul</a> &#8211; Investigative reporting is certainly a component of that, although it&#8217;s also access, not just time. </p>
<p>More basically, my point is that the news business used to be based on charging for something that was difficult to do: distributing information. Now everyone can distribute information for free, so fewer people are willing to pay for it, which means it&#8217;s time to find something new to charge for. </p>
<p>As for everyone doing it simultaneously, I&#8217;ve heard that one before, but I don&#8217;t buy it. In this particular case, a few papers just need to prove the market, and others will follow. I think the audience is less fickle than most people assume &#8211; there&#8217;s still such a thing as a loyal following.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Balcerak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Balcerak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the other day — and I may have mentioned this somewhere before — that in order to charge for news on the &#039;Net (and be successful) you&#039;d have to convince every other news source to do it as well — kind of like what iTunes and Rhapsody did in the mp3 download biz after Metallica sunk Napster.

Metered content on &quot;bonus&quot; material is another way to pull in a few bucks (it seems like ESPN makes a killing doing this) but I&#039;m not convinced that enough people value investigative reporting (I assume that&#039;s what you&#039;re talking about) for it to &quot;save&quot; the business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the other day — and I may have mentioned this somewhere before — that in order to charge for news on the &#8216;Net (and be successful) you&#8217;d have to convince every other news source to do it as well — kind of like what iTunes and Rhapsody did in the mp3 download biz after Metallica sunk Napster.</p>
<p>Metered content on &#8220;bonus&#8221; material is another way to pull in a few bucks (it seems like ESPN makes a killing doing this) but I&#8217;m not convinced that enough people value investigative reporting (I assume that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re talking about) for it to &#8220;save&#8221; the business.</p>
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